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Michael Smith's avatar

This is brilliant. I've been thinking carefully about reflexivity (calling it "self-reference") for about a decade and found this article really clarifying. I hadn't at all thought about there being kind of a reflexivity market in terms of low-hanging fruit for affecting complex systems with belief. Lots of new stuff here for me, but that part in particular stands out for me.

I think science CAN tackle reflexive systems by the way. I like David Deutsch's approach to defining science, basically saying it's about coming up with explanations that could be proven false and then checking if they're wrong. It's just that, as you note, non-reflexive systems are much easier to come up with stable explanations for. So those are the domains that science has focused on so far. We usually call such things "objective". Then science fails when it hits reflexive topics because its practitioners keep wanting to use objective measures and methods on them, which fail for spectacularly obvious reasons if you're used to thinking in reflexive terms.

Basically anything having to do with subjectivity is like this. If we're coming up with theories about the nature of the self, for instance, then the act of understanding and stating the theory is probably part of the domain the theory is supposed to explain. You can't factor the scientist out of that process the way you can factor out lots of reflexive stuff in biology via an RCT. You sort of have to bite the bullet and just let your theories be kind of self-aware and check whether their self-reference makes sense and is stable (e.g. less like "This sentence is false" and more like "This sentence is true").

I've been on about "subjective science" exactly because of this point. We can do real science in reflexive domains. It just requires being willing to TRY, and to develop new methods. And that lets us tackle things like wholesomeness and wisdom — the really precious stuff that objective science has to ignore.

Thanks so much for writing this post! Very thought provoking for me.

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Jay Azhang's avatar

I think the idea of reflexivity is still underrated. I wrote this piece to put it closer to the center of how I see the world, not just how I see financial markets. Unsurprisingly, the concept of reflexivity, is itself, reflexive. The more we understand it, the more prevalent it becomes.

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